Rigid Toolbox fixing
- Keith.owen
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Rigid Toolbox fixing
Hi,
I am probably being dumb, here, but I am a bit perplexed as to how the toolbox is fitted.
I have two boxes (repro) and two sets of brackets, from different sources.
With the exception that one set of brackets (the ones that go over the frame) has some studs for fixing into the box from behind, and the other doesn't all are the same. The question is that the bracket is wider that the box in all cases, meaning that there is a gap between it and the back of the box. To move it forward, towards the lid, means that the bracket sites over the ridge against which the lid abuts.
Is this normal? Could some kind soul take a picture of the toolbox fitted to their bike, looking up along the top frame member? Perhaps this would put me straight, since I bought some brackets from Drags, thinking the ones I had were incorrect and discovered that they were essentially the same as those I already had!
Thanks in anticipation,
Keith Owen
I am probably being dumb, here, but I am a bit perplexed as to how the toolbox is fitted.
I have two boxes (repro) and two sets of brackets, from different sources.
With the exception that one set of brackets (the ones that go over the frame) has some studs for fixing into the box from behind, and the other doesn't all are the same. The question is that the bracket is wider that the box in all cases, meaning that there is a gap between it and the back of the box. To move it forward, towards the lid, means that the bracket sites over the ridge against which the lid abuts.
Is this normal? Could some kind soul take a picture of the toolbox fitted to their bike, looking up along the top frame member? Perhaps this would put me straight, since I bought some brackets from Drags, thinking the ones I had were incorrect and discovered that they were essentially the same as those I already had!
Thanks in anticipation,
Keith Owen
Keith Owen
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
- Roger Gwynn
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Re: Rigid Toolbox fixing
year, model and frame type would help enormously Keith!
Roger Gwynn, caretaker of the club's works drawings and machine register, membership secretary 2015-26. Director of AOMCC, Draganfly Motorcycles, Craven Equipment and Supreme Motorcycles mostly retired.
- Keith.owen
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Re: Rigid Toolbox fixing
Hi Roger,
Its a 1950 Rigid VH.
I thought it might be useful to carry a few goodies with me (harking back to when the nipple came off the end of the clutch cable and I suffered)!
Its a 1950 Rigid VH.
I thought it might be useful to carry a few goodies with me (harking back to when the nipple came off the end of the clutch cable and I suffered)!
Keith Owen
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
- Roger Gwynn
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Re: Rigid Toolbox fixing
There are a lot of toolboxes, some with only subtle differences, not helped by the fact that the toolbox is often listed as 'with fittings'. Also they were made by an outside company that made toolboxes for other makers and sold them as general toolboxes as well. They come with flat lids, slightly domed lids and with larger domes.
As far as I can ascertain it should be this one
Part no - 6554-41
Back of box to c/l of rib - 2-3/8"
Drg No. -E9/964
Models - All
Years - 1946-55
Hinge - Bottom
Knob - 6557-41 or -47
Clips - 6560-36 (2)
Plate - 6565-35
Bracket - fixed
Notes - Lower bracket moved in by 5/16 from 1951
As far as I can ascertain it should be this one
Part no - 6554-41
Back of box to c/l of rib - 2-3/8"
Drg No. -E9/964
Models - All
Years - 1946-55
Hinge - Bottom
Knob - 6557-41 or -47
Clips - 6560-36 (2)
Plate - 6565-35
Bracket - fixed
Notes - Lower bracket moved in by 5/16 from 1951
Roger Gwynn, caretaker of the club's works drawings and machine register, membership secretary 2015-26. Director of AOMCC, Draganfly Motorcycles, Craven Equipment and Supreme Motorcycles mostly retired.
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Re: Rigid Toolbox fixing
Keith,
These pictures are of the original toolbox on my '49: The mount is quite close to the ridge. Possibly your pattern box is narrower than the original so maybe you could pad the rear mounts out a bit to take up the difference.
Pete
These pictures are of the original toolbox on my '49: The mount is quite close to the ridge. Possibly your pattern box is narrower than the original so maybe you could pad the rear mounts out a bit to take up the difference.
Pete
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Hi Pete,
It looks like I have a minor challenge here. Could I ask how deep your box is (measured on the inside from the top to the back)?
I suspect that the ones that I have, although from different sources and both pretty much the same, are possibly not as deep as the one on your bike.
Maybe I'll have to improvise the fixings.
Thanks and BR,
Keith
It looks like I have a minor challenge here. Could I ask how deep your box is (measured on the inside from the top to the back)?
I suspect that the ones that I have, although from different sources and both pretty much the same, are possibly not as deep as the one on your bike.
Maybe I'll have to improvise the fixings.
Thanks and BR,
Keith
Keith Owen
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
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Not a challenge - a learning opportunityIt looks like I have a minor challenge here.
- Keith.owen
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Re: Rigid Toolbox fixing
Ah,
That explains things!
The boxes that I have are 2.5 inches high, which is why the bracket doesn't fit, as is. A spacer will clearly be needed.
Looking at one of the boxes, it looks to be 'left handed'. Interesting.
pete, thanks for taking the trouble to get back to me. Much appreciated.
Keith.
That explains things!
The boxes that I have are 2.5 inches high, which is why the bracket doesn't fit, as is. A spacer will clearly be needed.
Looking at one of the boxes, it looks to be 'left handed'. Interesting.
pete, thanks for taking the trouble to get back to me. Much appreciated.
Keith.
Keith Owen
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
Past Editor - Cheval de Fer
1950 Rigid Ariel VH
1951 Rigid Ariel NH
1973 Norton 850 Commando Interstate
1952 Plunger KH
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Re: Rigid Toolbox fixing
Keith, have you thought about using the top frame clip as used on the oil tank rigid and plunger.
Dave
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