A question to White and Poppers - removing a barrel I've always had to take the valves and springs off first to get to the base flange nuts. Definitely makes removing and replacing a barrel a more time consuming process that it needs to. So, my question - has any of you figured out how to get to the nuts behind the tappets on a W&P engine without removing the valves and springs?
Pics of my 1920 barrel and the offending stud/tappet layout.
How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
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tony.barnett
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Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
A pic of my 1913 barrel to illustrate the poor access...
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KOBI
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
Hi
The clearances are not well defined in the photos, but my first approach would be with the ring end of a combination spanner suitably ground down and thinned to fit, as well as moving the push rods to maximise access.
Regards Mick
The clearances are not well defined in the photos, but my first approach would be with the ring end of a combination spanner suitably ground down and thinned to fit, as well as moving the push rods to maximise access.
Regards Mick
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tony.barnett
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Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
Thanks Mick - I've tried grinding down a ring spanner - there just isn't enough room, and if you do get the spanner over the nut the tappet is in the way.Mick D wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:05 pm Hi
The clearances are not well defined in the photos, but my first approach would be with the ring end of a combination spanner suitably ground down and thinned to fit, as well as moving the push rods to maximise access.
Regards Mick
KOBI
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
Hi Tony
Have you considered using modifying the nuts, (reducing head size and or height)?
Regards Mick
Have you considered using modifying the nuts, (reducing head size and or height)?
Regards Mick
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Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
Thats not a bad idea. I'll see if I can find reduced hex nuts in that size.Mick D wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:19 pm Hi Tony
Have you considered using modifying the nuts, (reducing head size and or height)?
Regards Mick
KOBI
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
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Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
What is the stud diameter and thread?
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Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
3/8" BSW
KOBI
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
How about manufacturing double nuts? Full size nut at the base with a smaller hex nut for your ring spanner on top? Wouldn't compromise the clamping diameter of the lower nut?
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Re: How Do You Get To Your Nuts?
Hmmmm....thats worth a look. ThanksAdz.F wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:26 pm How about manufacturing double nuts? Full size nut at the base with a smaller hex nut for your ring spanner on top? Wouldn't compromise the clamping diameter of the lower nut?
KOBI
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
Ex Swindon Branch Combined Operations (Chairman and Secretary)
Ex General Secretary of the AOMCC
Ariels - 1913 TT Model, 20 Roadster, 28 Model D, 30 Model B, 38 VH, 52 VH
Velocette MAC, KSS Mk1
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