Is this an ariel ?

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Is this an ariel ?

Post by john.nash »

hi there,
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I wonder whether you could help me identify the bike in the photos please? Its my fathers but neither he nor I can identify it for sure, although he thinks he has the log book somewhere. it has been suggested that it may be an Ariel hence my e mail to you.

Could you make a post perhaps on your forum?

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Looks like it to me - got the Ariel sprung saddle anyway. Looks like its missing a few vital parts though...
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Post by adrie.degraaff »

Yes it's an Ariel, 1913 - 1915.

If you clean the rear engine lugg behind the tube, you will see the nr, the first of the 4 nr. is the year, so 3 is 1913.

It will be difficult to find the engine but it's noting compared to finding the gearbox.
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thank Guys, I am new on the forum and I am keen to see the right thing happen to this bike. My father thinks he has the engine and box, and I have definitely seen the wheels but they are very rotten. I will ask Dad to check out the numbering as suggested and report back. I now need to get some photos of the engine and box so that I can identify it. Father has a few bikes in pieces that he has bought over the years. He didnt pull them apart so dont blame him, but age has caught up with him and he is keen to let me take these projects on but I dont really know what belongs with what. Is this a 500cc single or a Vtwin would anyone know? thanks for the help Andrew
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I think that the frame is the same for single or twin, but if your father has the engine there will be a Ariel plate on it, if he has a V twin engine aswell than the numbers willbe almost the same.
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thanks you for the information. I will report back as soon as he finds the number as long as he can that is. He is just going into hospital for a small operation and God willing will be home in a about 10 days.
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adrie.degraaff wrote:
If you clean the rear engine lugg behind the tube, you will see the nr, the first of the 4 nr. is the year, so 3 is 1913.
Not sure thats quite true Adrie - at least the numbers in my W&P Ariel list don't suggest so.
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Sorry forgotten, inside the gearbox is the year and month stampt of the gearbox, so ad a few months for it to be a motorcycle.
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Well having got my father to search his records, he has stumbled on some documentation for the bike, and it is definitely an Ariel 500cc It states it was manufactured in 1920 but this may be an estimate as its not the original log book. The frame number says A5514 if anyone can tell me what model this is I would be grateful. many thanks for the help and assistance.
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Are you sure that A5514 is the frame number? Thats an engine number from a v-twin.... You took the numbers from the documents or actually off the frame?

And if that is the engine number then you are looking around 1915. Likely that the bike was re-registered in 1920. A lot were.
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