1941 W/NG
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1941 W/NG
This popped up on a BMW forum that I frequent:
Registered historic vehicle first built from spares in 1980 with a pile of receipts from an overhaul during lockdown.
Genuine W/NG frame prefix XG and engine prefix BH plus a spare bottom end. Fitted with a concentric carb and external oil filter. Comes with a reprinted W/NG riders handbook, workshop manual and spares list.
I purchased her in the summer with the intention of converting her into a girder forked rigid trials bike to ride in the Arbuthnot. For various health related reasons I don’t think this is going to happen, so would rather someone else made use of her.
Can be viewed near Trowbridge.
(Could not see a phone number listed.
If anybody is interested, let me know and I will ping him a message)
£4250 ono
Registered historic vehicle first built from spares in 1980 with a pile of receipts from an overhaul during lockdown.
Genuine W/NG frame prefix XG and engine prefix BH plus a spare bottom end. Fitted with a concentric carb and external oil filter. Comes with a reprinted W/NG riders handbook, workshop manual and spares list.
I purchased her in the summer with the intention of converting her into a girder forked rigid trials bike to ride in the Arbuthnot. For various health related reasons I don’t think this is going to happen, so would rather someone else made use of her.
Can be viewed near Trowbridge.
(Could not see a phone number listed.
If anybody is interested, let me know and I will ping him a message)
£4250 ono
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Re: 1941 W/NG
Thanks Julian - that’s me! I was going to post on this site today but you’ve saved me the job thank you 
If anybody would like to contact me please do so on
keith.johnston55@hotmail.co.uk
07836 376107
If anybody would like to contact me please do so on
keith.johnston55@hotmail.co.uk
07836 376107
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Re: 1941 W/NG
Hello Keith.
I only accept cash....

I only accept cash....
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Re: 1941 W/NG
I’m surprised there has been no interest in this WNG. Apart from the total collapse of demand for British bikes is there anything else wrong with this advert, price, time of year etc.
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Re: 1941 W/NG
Hi Keith,
yes, the market is slim, lots of oldtimers (those even older than us) die off or have started to 'uncollect' their collection.
Bikes that where onobtainable for many years to us lesser mortals become available.
Many are taken to auctions and - most likely- end up in another static collection, dont need spare parts as they are - again- not used.
So no gain there. And only to reappear again in a few years time.
Add to all this a lunatic in the east that makes for a somewhat akward future, and a public that slowly moves away from the combustion chamber only to fall in to the electric trap that is just another way to deplete the sources, oh well, what not..
I digress, your WNG, for it to be interesting for, lets say, a WD buff, it fails the mudguards, DU42 headlamp, both toolboxes, (I think I see a Concentric?) dynamo, original handlebar bits, field stand(is the lug cut off?) Ah! my pet part the Altette
etc.
Those -originals- are hard / very hard to find, and some WD buffs only want originals, no Indian repro stuff, some even prefer only NOS
If -IF- you can find those bits you pay serious money .
Ofcourse, it does not need to have all those bits, one can ride it as it is.
But buyers count their buttons (Dutch saying, dunno if that makes sense...) and want something more complete.
something that straight away holds its value, ofcourse thats mostly in their fantasy because when the shit really hits the fan you cant even buy a loaf of bread for your precious classic bike...
So there you have it... my view....
yes, the market is slim, lots of oldtimers (those even older than us) die off or have started to 'uncollect' their collection.
Bikes that where onobtainable for many years to us lesser mortals become available.
Many are taken to auctions and - most likely- end up in another static collection, dont need spare parts as they are - again- not used.
So no gain there. And only to reappear again in a few years time.
Add to all this a lunatic in the east that makes for a somewhat akward future, and a public that slowly moves away from the combustion chamber only to fall in to the electric trap that is just another way to deplete the sources, oh well, what not..
I digress, your WNG, for it to be interesting for, lets say, a WD buff, it fails the mudguards, DU42 headlamp, both toolboxes, (I think I see a Concentric?) dynamo, original handlebar bits, field stand(is the lug cut off?) Ah! my pet part the Altette
Those -originals- are hard / very hard to find, and some WD buffs only want originals, no Indian repro stuff, some even prefer only NOS
If -IF- you can find those bits you pay serious money .
Ofcourse, it does not need to have all those bits, one can ride it as it is.
But buyers count their buttons (Dutch saying, dunno if that makes sense...) and want something more complete.
something that straight away holds its value, ofcourse thats mostly in their fantasy because when the shit really hits the fan you cant even buy a loaf of bread for your precious classic bike...
So there you have it... my view....
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Thank you Vincent. Appreciated.
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Re: 1941 W/NG
You wrote it very accurately. I agree with you.Vincent.vanGinneke wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:52 pm Hi Keith,
yes, the market is slim, lots of oldtimers (those even older than us) die off or have started to 'uncollect' their collection.
Bikes that where onobtainable for many years to us lesser mortals become available.
Many are taken to auctions and - most likely- end up in another static collection, dont need spare parts as they are - again- not used.
So no gain there. And only to reappear again in a few years time.
Add to all this a lunatic in the east that makes for a somewhat akward future, and a public that slowly moves away from the combustion chamber only to fall in to the electric trap that is just another way to deplete the sources, oh well, what not..
I digress, your WNG, for it to be interesting for, lets say, a WD buff, it fails the mudguards, DU42 headlamp, both toolboxes, (I think I see a Concentric?) dynamo, original handlebar bits, field stand(is the lug cut off?) Ah! my pet part the Altetteetc.
Those -originals- are hard / very hard to find, and some WD buffs only want originals, no Indian repro stuff, some even prefer only NOS![]()
If -IF- you can find those bits you pay serious money .
Ofcourse, it does not need to have all those bits, one can ride it as it is.
But buyers count their buttons (Dutch saying, dunno if that makes sense...) and want something more complete.
something that straight away holds its value, ofcourse thats mostly in their fantasy because when the shit really hits the fan you cant even buy a loaf of bread for your precious classic bike...
So there you have it... my view....![]()
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Re: 1941 W/NG
Your Welcome
and the market is about to be flooded once more ! see this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K6G6isW84s
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