Ariel registration

[Davidmeachen]

Trying to get my Ariel registered with the DVLA seems to be causing a problem. I was initially told that through the frame number a check found that the bike was still registered to a previous owner and that I would probably end up with the original registration number. Now I've received a letter in which my application form and fee have been returned and now they are asking questions that were answered when I visited DVLA 2 weeks ago: do I know what the reg number is; is the machine complete or still being renovated?
I supplied the frame number and engine number and showed pics of the completed bike so I am a little annoyed that it would seem that I have to start the registration process all over again!

[keith.mettam]

Hi David,
It might be easier to start the registration process through the club, if you haven't done so already. From your posting it doesn't sound like it. The following link may help you, if not then contact Paul Jameson the club archivist and, hopefully, he will advise you on the best way forward.

http://www.arielownersmcc.com/dating.html

All the best with it.
Keith Mettam.

[Davidmeachen]

Thank you Kieth for your advice. I actually went to the DVLA yesterday to ask what they were playing at! I now have an appointment for next Wednesday to take the bike to DVLA for an inspector to check it over and to ensure that the frame number and engine number are genuine; then, I'm told, the original registration number will be forthcoming. In the meantime I will check out the link you sent me and get the ball rolling there too

[p tuxworth]

"through the frame number a check found that the bike was still registered" did the dvla do this for you ? the £25 for a cert off the club is very usefull to have when trying to retain or get a bike registerd

[robin.parker]

David, whatever you do don't ask the DVLA" what they were playing at". They are one of our unaccountable quangos, so you must always be very nice to them, yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir!. Always take along as much documentation as you can amass.

[Davidmeachen]

Hi p tuxworth and robin
Yes the DVLA checked the frame number when I originally went there with all documentation to have the bike re-registered. I had a date certificate from the Society of Automotive Historians in Britain, Certificate of insurence (based on the frame number) and a new MOT certificate. Thats when I was told that the bike was still registered with a previous keeper and that checks would need to be made as to why the DVLA had not been informed of transfer of ownership and to ensure that it wasn't stolen. Initially I was told that after checks were made then the original number plate would probably be issued but the process would take up to 6 weeks. Well that was two weeks ago. Then on Tuesday I had a letter asking if the bike was "Complete" and asking me for the registration number and returning my original application form and my registration fee!
I went to the DVLA on Wednesday and explained that I had already provided proof that the bike was complete (photo's and MOT certificate) and it was a registration number that I was applying for. Anyway after the receptionist (?) returned from talking to some invisible person I was told that the bike would need to be brought to the DVLA for inspection; which is the stage I am now at. The inspection is booked for 1pm on Wednesday. Have to hire a van to get it there (an unnecessary expense in my opinion especially as the bike is tested and insured)
I'll post the results of the inspection as soon as I have it
Regards
Dave

[dave.owen]

David, it is usual for the DVLA to inspect re-registered bikes to check it is complete and the numbers untampered. . Last time I took a bike for inspection it only lasted 5 minutes.
My dealing with the DVLA in Bristol have all been pleasant experiences even if they do appear just to be ticking the boxes.

Dave

[Davidmeachen]

Thank you Dave. Yes I realise the people at DVLA have a job to do and that the bike must be inspected. My gripe is that even with insurence and test certificate which shows my bike to be roadworthy, I have to go to the added expense of hiring a van for the day to get my bike to DVLA for the inspection.
Plus; an inspection appointment could have been made when I originally went to DVLA with all the paperwork over two weeks ago.

[Davidmeachen]

I took the bike to DVLA on Wednesday and it passed the inspection. The inspector ummed and arrred a bit and said it could no longer be called a Huntmaster so the log book will read Ariel Chopper.
Awaiting the log book and reg number so I can get the bike on the road.

[john.nash]

the log book will read Ariel Chopper..

Won't that make it hard to get insurance ?
And if you tell the insurance compnay that it's something else, that is different from the logbook description, you'll be in default?