As I am restoring my Leader engine from a non-running situation, I do not know if the clutch linings are OK.
Is there a known minimum thickness for the cork linings? If so, any idea what it is?
I have read on here of difficulties arising from replacement clutch linings which are not of cork or segmented as the originals. Is this what I would likely get from Drags if I go for exchange clutch plates?
Cheers. Advices appreciated, as usual.
Jerry
Clutch plate thickness
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David.Smewing
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Re: Clutch plate thickness
Jerry
I got the clutch plates from Drags and they don't work, the linings are for a dry clutch, not a wet clutch like the Leader/Arrow. I suggest you contact John Ellis the two stroke spares organiser, 01285861510 (evenings only)
regards
Dave Smewing
I got the clutch plates from Drags and they don't work, the linings are for a dry clutch, not a wet clutch like the Leader/Arrow. I suggest you contact John Ellis the two stroke spares organiser, 01285861510 (evenings only)
regards
Dave Smewing
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Jerry.Lunt
Re: Clutch plate thickness
Thank you Dave. That's good to know about Drags plates.
I have been in contact with John Ellis but I was not encouraged by the response. That's not a complaint, just an observation. I sent him a brief enquiry email and after no response called him last evening. I was advised he does not start his computer very often and it may be a few days till he does and he's just a volunteer doing the spares for the Club. mmmmm
I have to send him a list of the spares I need, so I will do so and see what happens. Having done nothing to this bike for some 3 years I've now got my teeth into is so it becomes a little frustrating when I can't easily move things forward, but of course I cannot expect people to jump just for me. Such is the world on old machine restoration, which I'm sure many have found before me.
I think I will likely put my original plates back and see how it goes from there. By asking if anyone knows a minimum thickness, I'm trying to pre-empt doing the job twice.
I have been in contact with John Ellis but I was not encouraged by the response. That's not a complaint, just an observation. I sent him a brief enquiry email and after no response called him last evening. I was advised he does not start his computer very often and it may be a few days till he does and he's just a volunteer doing the spares for the Club. mmmmm
I have to send him a list of the spares I need, so I will do so and see what happens. Having done nothing to this bike for some 3 years I've now got my teeth into is so it becomes a little frustrating when I can't easily move things forward, but of course I cannot expect people to jump just for me. Such is the world on old machine restoration, which I'm sure many have found before me.
I think I will likely put my original plates back and see how it goes from there. By asking if anyone knows a minimum thickness, I'm trying to pre-empt doing the job twice.
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bh.sprint
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Re: Clutch plate thickness
Hi,
I've just measured a few worn clutch pltaes and the thinnest is .125'' and the others up to .140''. They look like the ones I took out of my bike when the clutch was just starting to slip.
I've tried a few types of linings and they all give problems ie slip or drag when hot but Villiers Services relinined some for me and although they are thicker ( approx .200'' ) and a full insert ,not like the originals -- by using an old plate and two new ones the clutch is OK . It does not slip or drag when hot, they have been in the bike for over two years now.
Brian H.
I've just measured a few worn clutch pltaes and the thinnest is .125'' and the others up to .140''. They look like the ones I took out of my bike when the clutch was just starting to slip.
I've tried a few types of linings and they all give problems ie slip or drag when hot but Villiers Services relinined some for me and although they are thicker ( approx .200'' ) and a full insert ,not like the originals -- by using an old plate and two new ones the clutch is OK . It does not slip or drag when hot, they have been in the bike for over two years now.
Brian H.
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Jerry.Lunt
Re: Clutch plate thickness
Thank you Brian, that is very useful. I will measure my plates though I think I need to prize them apart!!
Apology due to John Ellis. I sent him a list of my needs by email yesterday and he responded within a few hours. Excellent. Thank you John. Just waiting on his postal reply to see what I need to get elsewhere, if anything.
Apology due to John Ellis. I sent him a list of my needs by email yesterday and he responded within a few hours. Excellent. Thank you John. Just waiting on his postal reply to see what I need to get elsewhere, if anything.
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bh.sprint
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Re: Clutch plate thickness
Hello again,
Re the clutch plates, I've measured an unused plate with original cork linings (its part of a sectioned gearbox ) and it meaures just under .150'' . It may be different from a N. O. S one but its in the right area . The plates( the metal part ) are .062 thick.
Some of the continuous lining plates are well over .200 thick, so if you use all three plates it will / may come out of the basket or touch on the primary chaincase when the clutch is operated.
Brian H.
Re the clutch plates, I've measured an unused plate with original cork linings (its part of a sectioned gearbox ) and it meaures just under .150'' . It may be different from a N. O. S one but its in the right area . The plates( the metal part ) are .062 thick.
Some of the continuous lining plates are well over .200 thick, so if you use all three plates it will / may come out of the basket or touch on the primary chaincase when the clutch is operated.
Brian H.
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