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Re: New to Ariels
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:06 pm
by a.middleton
Just checked the wheel and its definatly 36 spoke.
It has qualcast cast into the hub, can i asume that is not standard ??
Andy
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:03 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
Hello Andy, Qualcast is right, that's on all Ariel hubs I know of, sometimes on cilinder heads also.
Can you mail a pic? vincent
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:11 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
me again, I've just been 'rivit counting' . Ariel made a 250 'lightweigth' OG in the late thirties.
This OG model had lots of things smaller. If I am not mistaken I count 36 spokes. Google 'Ariel OG' and you see an old ad.
Anyone else can confirm this ? Vincent
Re: New to Ariels
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:44 pm
by a.middleton
Thanks Vincent
Here are some photos
Also the Last photo shows the timming side cover with RH yet i cant find any reference to To an RH model am i being dumb?
Andy
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:20 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
Hello Andy, It does look like a Ariel hub, spokes look pretty new to me so it could have been relaced on a later rim.
Or maybe OH/OG models had 21"frontwheel ?
Ah, I just thought about that, look in the Knowledgebase for the '39 catalog, there you should be able to see a OH/OG
I know of a man in New Zealand owning a OH/OG model , Nigel Ingliss, is he on this forum?
The RH500 cover is o.k. That's what you want to have on a Red Hunter !
I think prewar it had RH500 on it and postwar only VH .
but I could be wrong. regards, Vincent
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:33 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
me again, again! can you post a pic of the rear frame / rearspindle?
The 250 frames where rather special, 'short' wheel base ones.
The 'shortness' being in the rear wheel framelug, this was different as the two frametubes that meet there where shorter and so ending slightly further apart hence a different framelug was needed.
Postwar this frame lug (or maybe the whole frame?) was used on the rigid framed VCH competition models.
Re: New to Ariels
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:56 pm
by a.middleton
As requested photos of the frame rear.
Dont worry the red clutch basket is not my doing
Thanks Andy
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:15 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
I think its a 'normal' rigid frame, but the rear stand points are cut off (large extra hole on left side is for sidecar)
It's a RED hunter so the clutch basket should be red (the former owners thoughts....) and it has some extra holes in it !
chainguard could have started as a AJS/Matchless item, but now shorter.
vincent
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:06 am
by brenton.roy
Great spotting Vincent!
I've emailed Nigel, hopefully he'll log in and have a look. He will know if it is OH.
The other Kiwi with an OH is Peter Wright. Both really know their stuff.
Brenton
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:40 am
by nevhunter
Some velocettes used 36 spokes and lots of early bikes, (even Indians pre 1918). Nev