New project " Belgium IRENE"

[Roger Gwynn]

Sorry I meant to refer to XG 23810. The original frame for BH 15,067 is XG 23,823, which was built the day after your frame, so they are close relatives.

[admin]

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[Prestone.M]

for Roger

My chassis number is indeed 23810

[Prestone.M]

Hi Roger,

The word "Siren" is the name I gave the motorcycle.

Because of the movie "The Little Mermaid."

In French, "Mermaid is sirene."

So it's french "ma petite sirene".

Yes, the frame number is indeed 23810.

Is there only one model of passenger seat?
On restored motorcycles, there are various versions.

Original photos of Ariel are not easy to find.

Thank you for the information you provide.

[Roger Gwynn]

Ariel used various suppliers over the years but customers could ask for any style they wanted. From the 1930's there was less choice so all the saddles were the same standard style, some with elastics, some with springs usually made by Terry's or Lycette's. There were 3sizes small for Bantams and other lightweights, large for the SQ4 and standard size for everything else. Before the war each manufacturer had different brackets but as they were part of the seat all the saddles were different. During the war the government tried to standardise parts to make it easier for the parts stores and decided on a standard design of saddle that was supplied without front brackets so it would fit every bike. This is the saddle copied by the Indians and is generally available.
You should get a parts book if you don't have one. There is a different parts book for each contract, so decide which contract you will copy. Not all of the parts books are available but they are free to club members and available on the web site. The parts book for your contract C11103 is not available but it is the same specification as C10477, which is available.

This example from contract number C11,464, was delivered in September 1941 and in spite of the current finish and tank number it was one of 750 built for the RAF. By the time it was built the knee grip rubbers and both number plates had been deleted. Some parts that are usually bright chrome plated should be in dull chrome instead - push rod tubes, exhaust system, handlebar controls, clutch dome and gearbox levers. Although the parts books indicate that engine plate covers were not fitted it would appear that it means they would not be supplied as a spare part, but were fitted when new. Although tank badges were never listed in the parts books there is evidence to show that they were fitted to the early contracts but later the bar that the badges were screwed to was deleted and plain transfers used. Missing lower chainguard.

If you contact me by email I can send you an article all about W/NG that may put you to sleep! rmg@draganfly.co.uk

[Vincent.vanGinneke]

WHAT did you say ;

Original photos of Ariel are not easy to find


you get me started, just a few....

56th London Division The Black Cats Italy 1943.jpg (103.85 KiB) Viewed 1806 times

Ariel wartime ad.jpeg (47.62 KiB) Viewed 1806 times

Ariels on manouvre.jpg (47.97 KiB) Viewed 1806 times

Camping with a WNG.jpg (63.77 KiB) Viewed 1806 times

[Vincent.vanGinneke]

Just in case I missed a few

Mr. Vane on C4 312382 Reykjavik Iceland.jpg (75.29 KiB) Viewed 1805 times

Polish Army officer Italy 1944.jpg (32.53 KiB) Viewed 1805 times

Post 1943 W-NG.jpg (64.19 KiB) Viewed 1805 times

RAF - WNG (2).jpg (40.08 KiB) Viewed 1805 times

Sgt. Henry H. Novak, USAAF, 15th AF, 98BG, 344SQD 1944.jpg (59.17 KiB) Viewed 1805 times

Early tool box knob.jpg (45.59 KiB) Viewed 1805 times

[Roger Gwynn]

That is quite a collection Vincent, I love that the only comment you make is 'early tool box knob' !!

[Vincent.vanGinneke]

always a eye open for the detail !

[nevhunter]

I've Had 3 W/NGs One I've done about 17 thousand Miles on. Probably the Most I've done on any OLD bike. There was One Pic of a Tele forked WD Matchless about 1941. I have one of those too But I haven't got it Completed yet. They were a Bit RARE in AUSTRALIA. I wonder how Many W/NGs are still alive? Good work Vincent. Nev