Leader no spark
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Anthony Woolhead
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Leader no spark
Hi guys, this is my first post. Having recently acquired a 1959 Leader,I want to get it running before I strip it down for restoration. Having already found a couple of deliberate mistakes, i e a fibre washer on the fuel needle housing where there shouldn't be one, which caused the carb to continuously flood.
I have a spark on the right hand side but none on the left. I suspected the coil but swapping them over gave the same result. I have also checked the wire from the points to the coil for conductivity. So that now focuses my attention on one of the points sets or possibly the alternator. Any suggestions folks? I have checked gaps and cleaned them, I have read that separating the alternator can de-magetize it. Any ideas greatly appreciated.
Regards Tony
I have a spark on the right hand side but none on the left. I suspected the coil but swapping them over gave the same result. I have also checked the wire from the points to the coil for conductivity. So that now focuses my attention on one of the points sets or possibly the alternator. Any suggestions folks? I have checked gaps and cleaned them, I have read that separating the alternator can de-magetize it. Any ideas greatly appreciated.
Regards Tony
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Re: Leader no spark
The emergency ignition position only gives one spark I believe. Is the switch faulty or incorrectly wired?
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Thanks Roger, that's something I would not have thought about. I'll check that out.
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I've checked a number of old coils and found no faulty ones but have had a new coil which failed after 2/3 years.
Re the alternator rotor-- if a very strong pull is needed to get it off a bench vice then it is near enough OK. Villiers Services will do re-magnatising.
It is possible to check the alternator coils with a multimeter, there are resistances for each set of coils , I'll see if I can find them.
And it may be worth powering the coils direct from the battery to by-pass the switch, to check if the switch is the problem.
Brian H.
PS the two stroke Arrow and Leaders club are having a stand at Stafford - there will be a lot of very experienced owners on hand to give advice and some spares available.
Re the alternator rotor-- if a very strong pull is needed to get it off a bench vice then it is near enough OK. Villiers Services will do re-magnatising.
It is possible to check the alternator coils with a multimeter, there are resistances for each set of coils , I'll see if I can find them.
And it may be worth powering the coils direct from the battery to by-pass the switch, to check if the switch is the problem.
Brian H.
PS the two stroke Arrow and Leaders club are having a stand at Stafford - there will be a lot of very experienced owners on hand to give advice and some spares available.
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Can you see the points 'arcing' ? If not, no power there. If a big spark there then its probably condensor.
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Anthony Woolhead
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Brian H, where would I need to run wires from and to, and would I need to disconnect any existing?
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Re: Leader no spark
Hi,
If the bike is still as standard and has positive earth--- disconnect the supply wire - ve , usually white ,from the coil/contact breaker you need to test ( I use a mirror to find the correct wire/contact on the coil ) make sure it does not touch the frame by wrapping some tape around it and connect a spare bit of wire from the - ve terminal on the battery to the coil - ve. You can test each coil/contact breaker by swapping to the other coil connection.
There is a black/white wire goes to the O/S coil and bottom contact breaker for the emergency supply, whilst testing the coils/contact breakers it may be best to disconnect this in case the switch really is the problem.
If you look at the wiring diagram the white supply to one coil is then just extended to the other coil so if one coil is receiving power then the other should be also receiving a power supply unless there is a break in the connecting wire or bullet terminals.
Hope this helps Brian H.
If the bike is still as standard and has positive earth--- disconnect the supply wire - ve , usually white ,from the coil/contact breaker you need to test ( I use a mirror to find the correct wire/contact on the coil ) make sure it does not touch the frame by wrapping some tape around it and connect a spare bit of wire from the - ve terminal on the battery to the coil - ve. You can test each coil/contact breaker by swapping to the other coil connection.
There is a black/white wire goes to the O/S coil and bottom contact breaker for the emergency supply, whilst testing the coils/contact breakers it may be best to disconnect this in case the switch really is the problem.
If you look at the wiring diagram the white supply to one coil is then just extended to the other coil so if one coil is receiving power then the other should be also receiving a power supply unless there is a break in the connecting wire or bullet terminals.
Hope this helps Brian H.
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Anthony Woolhead
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Brian, I am not familiar with the term ve.
Tony
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