1905 replica frame (real engine 5 HP)

[adrie.degraaff]

I know he was building it with his son, i would have made it in to Ariel, this is a more universal frame.
A racing engine is 6 HP with differend barrels.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/32059/ ... n-project/

[wade.edwards]

Are those estimates realistic?
No at all familiar with the market, but would have thought due to rarity, prices would be higher.

[adrie.degraaff]

We are all waiting for the auction, the buyers are Americans these days.

[wade.edwards]

Okay. I wouldn’t have thought the U.S.
would have an interest outside of the
AMCNA.

[tony.barnett]

I know he was building it with his son, i would have made it in to Ariel, this is a more universal frame.
A racing engine is 6 HP with differend barrels.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/32059/ ... n-project/

So this isn't an Ariel then Adrie? It looks similar... Have you got any background on it? He made the frame himself?

[adrie.degraaff]

I have been to his home 35 years ago when he was still living in Oxonhope near Keighley, i tryed to buy the engine but he told me he was going to make the frame himself.
Much later on the Anglo-Dutch he told me he was making it with his son.

You can still alter it to the 1905 road Ariel but it's better to make a new frame.

As you can see the exhaust is differend and the rearwheel luggs are not like Ariel, the headstock lugg is more like Triumph.
It's still a very rare engine but in 1905 already outdated for racing.

He also told me he swapped the 1908 Ariel engine to the 1909 frame becouse it was in better shape, i bought the 1908 with the 1909 engine of him.

[tony.barnett]

Thanks Adrie

[adrie.degraaff]

I have altered some lines just in case of disbelief, i found my old notebook .