1905 replica frame (real engine 5 HP)

[adrie.degraaff]

I know he was building it with his son, i would have made it in to Ariel, this is a more universal frame.
A racing engine is 6 HP with differend barrels.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/32059/ ... n-project/

[wade.edwards]

Are those estimates realistic?
No at all familiar with the market, but would have thought due to rarity, prices would be higher.

[adrie.degraaff]

We are all waiting for the auction, the buyers are Americans these days.

[wade.edwards]

Okay. I wouldn’t have thought the U.S.
would have an interest outside of the
AMCNA.

[tony.barnett]

I know he was building it with his son, i would have made it in to Ariel, this is a more universal frame.
A racing engine is 6 HP with differend barrels.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/32059/ ... n-project/

So this isn't an Ariel then Adrie? It looks similar... Have you got any background on it? He made the frame himself?

[adrie.degraaff]

I have been to his home trying to buy the engine but he sayd to me he was going to make the frame himself.
Later on the Anglo-Dutch he sayd he was making it with his son.

You can still alter it to the 1905 road Ariel but not the racer.

As you can see the exhaust is differend and the rearwheel luggs are not like Ariel, the headstock lugg is more like Triumph.
It's still a very rare engine but in 1905 already outdated for racing.

He also told me he swapped the 1908 Ariel engine to the 1909 frame becouse it was in better shape.

[tony.barnett]

Thanks Adrie