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Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:35 pm
by Steven.Carter
Fantastic Views
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I'd forgotten that the road between Ingleton and Dent is Gated, 9 miles took an hour.
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First two gates were just slightly uphill so easy to get on and off the bike but the last one was down hill. There was nowhere I could stop and get off, I thought I could trap the front wheel against the grass bank but I slipped off and stopped against the gate post. Luckily the gate opened out otherwise I would have been stuck.

Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:11 am
by Julian Murphy
Steven.

This is your answer :
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Available at:

https://mad4bikes.co.uk/acebikes-brakef ... iler-lock/

I have used one of these previoulsy making the bike more secure after lashing down on a cross channel ferry.

Keep it in your pocket

Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:02 pm
by Steven.Carter
Julian Murphy wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:11 am Steven.

This is your answer :

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Available at:

https://mad4bikes.co.uk/acebikes-brakef ... iler-lock/

I have used one of these previoulsy making the bike more secure after lashing down on a cross channel ferry.

Keep it in your pocket
That's a great idea,,,, I need one

Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:36 pm
by Steven.Carter
Lucky to get back home :(

There I was thinking everything is great when just outside Birmingham I pulled in my clutch approaching standing traffic. Ohh dear dear, or rather words to that effect! No Clutch :shock: . It was locked up solid. Panicking I managed to filter through the traffic to an exit and up to the traffic lights. I'll never complain about road works again, it gave me a very safe place to investigate and fix my embarrassing problem.
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Those 6 screws that hold the outer basket to the chain wheel had all come loose and jammed the inner basket solid. I came home on just 3 of them, but it gave me no further problems
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Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:59 pm
by paul.jameson
Drill the heads and lock wire them. I started doing this in the 1970s after forever having loose clutch screws. Since then, never a problem. You usually have to swop the screws around from hole to hole in order to get the drillings to line up when tight bit if necessary you can always run the wire along the screwdriver slot on a particularly awkward one.

While you are at it, throw those bonded plates out and get some new cork ones from Geoff Brown with springs to match. You will have a much lighter clutch and gearchanges will be faster due to the reduction in rotating weight of the plates.

Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:00 pm
by Steven.Carter
I'll do that Paul, pretty sure I used locktite but obviously didn't work.

Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:02 pm
by Steven.Carter
ralfpenkert wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:52 am Hello Steve "chapeau".
That early.
My VH500 looks exactly like yours.
Always a bit oily.
Couldn't figure out the reason.
If you have an idea please tell.
Ralf
I've had the best brains at the Iron Horse rally look at it, none of us can be sure where it's coming from.

Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:36 am
by Mick D
Hi

Shouldn't those bolts be secured by a tab washer? I routinely replace tab washers, ie. I don't reuse them, and don't suffer loss of torque.

Drilling and wire locking is another way to positively lock the bolts as Paul says - more info here regarding wire locking methods and materials.

https://www.aviationhunt.com/safety-wire-locking/

Regards Mick

Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:42 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
I've tried Pauls idea with drilling them, and yes, the holes always line up where I cant get the wire through. an conspiracy !

twin hole tab washers I use, when in the mood I make them (rarely)
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Re: Ariel Riding and Fixing 2023

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:09 pm
by dave.owen
I cut the normal circular tab washer into three, gives longer tabs.

Dave