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crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:12 pm
by John M
Hi
1958 Ariel FH HCS engine
On the drive side to the rear the engine has a mauled brass stump with an internal thread and an oil line pipe olive female shape projecting from the crankcase.which appears to be a breather pipe. Should this stump unscrew? Do I dill it out?
It is obviously beyond use but I cannot see any reference to it apart from an "oil line type" pipe which fixes onto it. Part 10390-54.
All suggestions welcome.
Thank you all.Image

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:38 pm
by JohnnyBeckett
ih i think it screws out , but your one looks like someone has had a go at trying to get it out , you can try and heating up the casing and use a pair of small stilsons, to undo it , or braise a nut or bolt on it and tuy and undo it if not you will have to drill it out and re tap it

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:33 pm
by Roger Gwynn
mmmm never noticed before but there does not appear to be a number for the breather union listed anywhere. The 1956 parts book lists a fibre washer for it but not the union.
It is the crankcase breather and heating the case may well help as the ally will expand a little more than the brass but not by much, however it may well break the bond between the 2. I wonder if it cast in? Unlikely, I think but a long time since I played with a Huntmaster.

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:37 am
by Mick D
Hi

It should just screw out - here's a photo of an unmullered one for info:
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Sorry, didn't record the thread details during my restoration.

Regards Mick

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:02 pm
by keith wainwright
That would be either 1/4" or 3/8" BSP.

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:25 am
by nevhunter
If it was intended to be screwed out it would have a hex on it. It may well be cast in with a ball valve there originally,, Nev

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:10 am
by Adz.F
Looks to me to be screwed rather than cast as the case has been machined flat where a nut would squarely mate to it?

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:29 am
by nevhunter
That "spot facing"could still have been done to get a definite dimension. I reckon there's been a ball valve in there. Glass without a spring? Nev

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:52 pm
by JohnnyBeckett
hi it maybe a taper fitting that someone has fitted or a bulkhead fitting that you use a nut on each side of the fitting that has been screwed in with some loctite :?: but i do know the original one screws in

Re: crankcase ?breather( part 10390-54)

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:10 am
by Simon.Gardiner
And sorry, Nev, there's no valves in 'em as such - but internally it come across from the timing side where there's a disc that times the venting through it.

SG