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Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:53 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
:lol:
Well, at least that Matchie has loooong pushrod tubes, just like my Model C.
back on the track now. :D
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Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:27 am
by nevhunter
Lots of mods to the AJS/matchless frame swing arm and fuel tank. The motor still has the AJS oil pump that weakened the timing side main bearing The 350 motor would be lucky to put out 21 HP. Motors went just as hard in the Late 20's. Nev

Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:54 am
by Karol Burger
Vincent.vanGinneke wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:53 pm :lol:
Well, at least that Matchie has loooong pushrod tubes, just like my Model C.
back on the track now. :D

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the 1928 OHV model is incredibly beautiful. It is such a tall giant in a simple frame. Beautiful lines. 8-)

Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:05 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
The Clutch.

My Model C came with few parts from a original clutch.
the basket and the clutch centre.
Centre part needed the stud holes redone, welded them up and retapped the holes in a different position and made up new studs from some -I think- old Honda engine through bolts.
I dunno much about material specs so I just grab something that I think will be o.k. for my needs :lol:
feb 24 clutch work Model C  (5).jpg
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clutch centre studs repaired (1).jpg
Then on to the clutch basket, for a change, that was in a reasonable condition.
Although it will need new rubbers for the schock absorbers
As been written in another post on this forum, yes, the rollers stick out :
Burman Q - kopie.jpg
But I think I see on this drawing there were really slim rollers in there, the ones I have are 350 bigend rollers.

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now I have a cunning plan
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grind them down one by one :)
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Lets see if I can pull that off .....

Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:43 am
by Karol Burger
I did it that way too. I sanded each one separately and then it worked fine.

Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:39 am
by dave.owen
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Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:30 am
by Vincent.vanGinneke
Thanks Dave ! that's a escape route :D

Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:11 pm
by Vincent.vanGinneke
The rocker box. (reader alert, section unfit for originality bum eyes, and professional moaners in general ! :lol: )

Although I have the original rockerbox I wanted to find out if I could use later rockers.
Hmmm, it looks like they would fit.
First task was altering later spindles, the diameter did not change over the years.
rocker spindles.jpg
I used for the test a worn one, (no usable Ariel parts are being hurt in the test process) the one in the centre only needs shortening.

To get them fitting the repro casting, (from Karol) it needs some alterning.
as the (outside) rocker arm sit under an angle, the slot in the box needs to get wider.
Also a small amount needs to be taken away around the inside arm .
slot wider.jpeg
view from underneath :
repro box with later rockers  (1).jpg
Using rocker arm springs as the later rockers are shorter overall.


Ah! and there is always a 'but'.....

I found that the later ex rocker has a different angle ! (did you know that ?)
I assume it's because a twin lobe cam has the position of the pushrods not in line.
(but a '28 also has a twin lobe......making a different angle at the ex rocker arm is perhaps an advanced insight at the factory ?)
With the advent of the single lobe the pushrods went back in to one line.
I can only conclude that the Ariel factory in all it's wisdom decided that the ex rocker arm could stay put. :D
(I always forget : is with the twin lobe the ex lifter the last one to go on the spindle ? ehhhhhh :) )

Anyway, this was a surprise :)
At the yellow arrow you see that it sits too close.
Fitting the pushrod tube + pushrod jams the plot.
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pic shows another ex rocker with paddle for lifter still attached.

repro box with later rockers  (3).jpg

Question :
Would it be o.k. to heat the rocker arm and give it a knock in the right direction ??
these parts are -I think- cast with no special treatment, so heating and bending would be o.k.
yours thoughts please !

Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:33 pm
by adrie.degraaff
I wouldn't have a problem doing that.
It's working with footrests and brake paddles so why not with this.

Re: Hymn to the 1928 Model C

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:03 pm
by Roger Gwynn
It should be a steel stamping or forging rather than a casting, so should be OK.....