Damaged piston

Singles, twins and fours.
Post Reply
allan.walker
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Posts: 339
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:35 am
Contact:

Damaged piston

Post by allan.walker »

Please don't shoot me down in flames, but would it be safe to use this piston in a Square Four? The missing piece is on the main thrust face (where the arrow on the crown points.) The piston had been in use for a very low mileage in another engine and is otherwise sound.
Would that amount missing lead to any running problems?
damaged piston.jpg
User avatar
Roger Gwynn
Holder of a Golden Anorak
Holder of a Golden Anorak
Posts: 1143
Joined: Tue May 28, 2013 11:34 am
Location: Norwich, UK
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by Roger Gwynn »

I would be happy to use it, the loss amounts to a small percentage of the thrust face.
Roger Gwynn, Membership Secretary, curator of the Machine Register and the works drawings. Director of Draganfly Motorcycles, Craven Equipment and Supreme Motorcycles mostly retired.
allan.walker
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Posts: 339
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:35 am
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by allan.walker »

Thanks, Roger.
There is a question as to how the damage occurred. I don't know if the engine it was in had stopped with a bang, or whether the piston was originally fitted with a piece missing.
My concern is, why would someone do that? I follow your logic about it only being a relatively small piece, but if I were to re-use it, I would definitely smooth-off the ragged edges first.
Hmm....
JohnnyBeckett
Holder of a Golden Anorak
Holder of a Golden Anorak
Posts: 2381
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by JohnnyBeckett »

hi , have you found the broken bit and is it one bit , the piston may have been dropped or deranged before it was fitted :?: i would still use the piston

i would just take the sharp edges off where it is broken
allan.walker
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Posts: 339
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:35 am
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by allan.walker »

The piston came to me in the condition shown, so I don't know what the 'shrapnel' may have looked like.
That's two replies in favour, any against?
User avatar
paul.jameson
Holder of a Golden Anorak
Holder of a Golden Anorak
Posts: 2950
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:04 pm
Location: Herefordshire
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by paul.jameson »

If you plan on fitting a double adult sidecar to the Square and then taking wife and 2 teenage kids down the motorway system to the south of Italy on holiday then I would advise against. Otherwise, I can't see too much of a problem. But what oversize is it? One of us might well have a more complete used piston sitting on the shelf (or more likely 4 of them).
Paul Jameson
35 LG (project), 37 RH500, 52 ex ISDT KHA, 54 KH(A), 75 Healey 1000/4.
Former Machine Registrar & Archivist, General Secretary and Single Spares Organiser (over a 25 year period).
Now Archivist (but not Machine Registrar), Gauges and Clocks Spares Organiser.
User avatar
Paul_Linden
Holder of a Silver Anorak
Holder of a Silver Anorak
Posts: 686
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:08 pm
Location: Exeter, UK
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by Paul_Linden »

It may be worth doing a dye test on it to see if there are any cracks.
Square 4 mk1, Square 4 mk2, BSA C12.
nevhunter
Holder of a Platinum Anorak
Holder of a Platinum Anorak
Posts: 5051
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 9:42 am
Location: Victoria.. Australia.
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by nevhunter »

It''s probably rolled off a bench onto a concrete floor. That's a "W" slot type piston for touring which sometimes cracks near the lower end of the slot after a long mileage. Just have a good look around and reinstall it. I won't tell anyone IF you don't. The bottom edge is only loaded if the Piston is very loose. It's not a particularly short skirt piston. Nev
allan.walker
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Holder of a Waxed Cotton Anorak
Posts: 339
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:35 am
Contact:

Re: Damaged piston

Post by allan.walker »

Thanks for all the replies.
The general consensus seems to be that it should be ok. Crack testing using dye sounds like a good idea. The pistons are +40 thou, if anyone has one...
I'll have a good think.
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], garycullen and 15 guests