Ariel identification, approx 1925

[markus.nikot]

Dear Veterans,

got these pics from a family photo album for an identification.
My guess, 1925 Sports with different front wheel and gearbox.

Markus

[adrie.degraaff]

Yes 1925

[Leslie.Ore]

Is it chain drive like my Dad's old one?

[Roger Gwynn]

The gearbox and front vee rim brake denote a 1923 or 1924, the only difference that I know of between those two is the tank transfer and the one in the pic does not look very original. MS is a Stirlingshire registration used 1903-1930

[rein.heerkens]

I think it’s 1924 as my 1925 sports model has a different gearbox.

[klaus gerhard]

Many years ago I owned this 1925 Ariel. It was very tricky to find missing bits. I think its still somewhere in Germany.
Regards Klaus

[andyhughesflattankarielpre25]

Hi Klaus,was this Klaus Muller Siedels bike?

[andyhughesflattankarielpre25]

I think the picture is of a 23 sports special.As Rein says the 25 had a different gearbox,it also had 2 piece handle bars drum front brake,this pic has the correct forks for the dummy brake which Ariel used only for approx. a year, I have some paperwork somewhere on various years of W/P Ariels but its just finding the stuff is my problem.Ariel did a great job of keeping the veteran engine going until 1925, as W/P stopped producing this motor in 1909.A great original photo though.

[adrie.degraaff]

as W/P stopped producing this motor in 1909

W/P started to built this engine in 1903.

[andyhughesflattankarielpre25]

That's correct Adrie,but it was not in their 1910 catalogue,it seemed Ariel then seemed to take it over, unless it was only made for Ariel by W/P, and no body else. It was altered a few times in the next 15 years to try to modernise it a little. but by 25 it was still basically an early veteran engine. If you have any info on W/P and AKD I would really like to see it some time.hope all is well with you,have a good day.