Identify my Dad's two Ariels

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Identify my Dad's two Ariels

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I'm not a Club member (yet!) as I am considering my next project, most likely to be an Ariel, so wonder if knowledgeable Club members can help me at this time.

I am drawn to restoring a bike that my late father had. According to the DVLA the actual bikes are no longer registered but the same model may be within reach. I'd like to check though, I believe one to be an Ariel 350cc NH (or NG?) Red Hunter that was first registered in Bath between March 1949 - January 1950, but would appreciate more details to identify the precise model and year. Sadly, I had no interest in bikes when Dad was around and regret this as I know he had several including during his time doing National Service. The photo of him riding in his suit is when he had a weekend pass from the RAF!

The other bike is, I believe, an Ariel Colt 200c c1954. Again, any further information would be appreciated.
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Post by Vincent.vanGinneke »

Hello, welcome to the forum.

on Carandclassic is a '56 Colt : https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1483311
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and also a '46 twin port 350 https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1481788
1946-ariel-nh-red-hunter-350-62e0f105e6479.jpg
your dad's 350 looks like a NG model with painted rims.
these early post war Ariels had a front hub with on the brake side all spokes with the spoke heads on the inside.
later hubs had them alternating. also the whole forks sits a bit closer to the headstock.
Main clue are the 'short' headlamp ears the later ones became 'longer' .
The one on Carandclassic looks correct for the type your dad had.
It looks o.k. but I dont like the 'angular' curves the front exhaust pipes make compared to the -original- ones on the b/w picture.
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VHT 899 is indeed a 1955 Colt. The reg is from Bristol, issued between July and August 1955. Not many about these days but usually cheap, some gearbox parts are hard to find but a complete BSA C group gearbox is an easy replacement.

BFB 513 is a Bath reg from March 1949 to Jan 1950. A lovely photo of a bike that can only be a few years old at the time although the silencers have obviously been changed. There are several features that confirm the date of the bike, unusual to still see painted oil seal holders and front brake plate. Almost certainly an NG (de-Luxe) rather than a NH (Red Hunter) given that the paint is black rather than red. Rigid and teles, lovely combination.
Photo is almost good enough to read the engine number.
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Post by simon.holyfield »

I hadn't noticed, when we saw this on FB, but the NG has what looks like an after market stop light.

Great pictures.
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Thank you all, Bath and Bristol registrations make total sense as he was living at Shirehampton at the time.
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Post by Simon.Gardiner »

There are virtually no records existing for Bath registrations but Bristol seem to have fairly comprehensive records for everything.
(Kithead Trust for details of what might be found in archives:
https://kitheadtrust.org.uk/england-wales
Bristol archives:
https://archives.bristol.gov.uk/guides/ ... 202020.pdf )

A visit to Bristol might get the full details of the Colt, including engine and frame numbers. From these the factory records (via eg AOMCC) would confirm the machine spec as built!

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Thank you!
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